r/SubredditDrama • u/Zefirus BBQ is a method, not the fucking sauce you bellend. • Oct 05 '17
Two redditors argue over whether hotels should have airport-style security.
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u/KillerPotato_BMW Oct 05 '17
Yeah, we should have better gun security in hotels, and nightclubs, and schools, and public parks, and private homes... Maybe it would be easier to just have gun control.
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u/sdgoat Oct 05 '17
Gun control? Show me one country where that has ever worked!
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u/SpoopySkeleman Oct 05 '17
provides list of countries where gun control has had a positive impact on gun violence
America is different tho.
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u/SpoopySkeleman Oct 05 '17
Legally tying guns to their owners, mandatory background checks for any and all firearm purchases, extensive required training before someone is permitted to use a firearm (à la driver's ed), more extensive restrictions on private selling.
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u/Steelrain121 Oct 05 '17
For as trivial as OP is making it seem, i doubt he has been in a hotel other than a small super 8, let alone a Vegas hotel
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u/I_Dont_Own_A_Cat Oct 06 '17
It took me nearly an hour to check into an NYC hotel recently. It was in Times Square and there were several conferences going on. There were literally hundreds of people checking in and out simultaneously. Adding security scans to that would have been insane.
Not to mention, the actual worst case scenario would have been someone simply attacking the lobby where dozens of people were milling around.
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Oct 05 '17
Folks are talking like there would have to be scanners and security and every hotel all the time. Really you could just have it during special events where folks are especially vulnerable. Like a country music festival in Las Vegas.
No one is shooting up the motel 8 in East Jesus, Montana.
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u/I_Dont_Own_A_Cat Oct 06 '17
In cities like Las Vegas and New York, there are constantly large crowds of people and special events happening. How would you determine which ones were vulnerable?
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Oct 06 '17
Idk. There are probably experts who have studied these things. They'd be making these decisions.
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u/essjay2009 Oct 05 '17
I’ve actually stayed in hotels with airport style security. Metal detectors, X-ray machines, pat downs, the whole shebang. Eh, it took like 90 seconds extra every time you went in to the hotel and was fine.
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u/threehundredthousand Oct 05 '17
What country?
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u/essjay2009 Oct 05 '17
Myanmar. Most of the hotels I stayed in had the equipment but I only saw them use it in Yangon.
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u/BetterCallViv Oct 05 '17
I was born in the mid 90s and never flew until the last year. I never understood what so awful about air travel security. I followed the instructions and got through just fine.
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u/JIMMY_RUSTLES_PHD Oct 05 '17
It really depends on the airport and time of year. It really can be pretty stressful.
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u/Deadpoint Oct 05 '17
It's expensive and time consuming for the illusion of added security.
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u/essjay2009 Oct 05 '17
I think your opinion will differ depending on your personal experience and your personal experience will differ depending on whether you regularly get “randomly” selected for additional screening.
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u/alphamone Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
I flew (as a kid) here in Australia a number of times in the 90s. And honestly, it isn't all that much differant today.
Heck, even the domestic US flights I took during my recent US holiday weren't all that different, and the airports I went to had the domestic and international passengers have the same security gates. Which actually made me understand why you guys don't let non-travelers go through security anymore. Because even in the few small airports that have domestic and international flights leaving from the same terminal, international departures is still past its own secondary security area.
TL:DR the people who remember "light security" are likely remembering airports that barely met the post-lockerbie security rules (if not just remembering pre-lockerbie security)
edit: also, in the 90s, you actually had to remove your laptop batteries when putting them through the x-ray scanner.
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u/eighthgear Oct 05 '17
It's a bit overhyped in terms of annoyance, especially now that the US has that TSA pre-check program, which means that if you are willing to pay $85 an have a background check done, you can go through security lines that are far less intrusive.
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Oct 05 '17
One shoe bomber tried to blow up a plane and now we take off our shoes. 1518 mass shootings since Sandy Hook and Congress has done NOTHING.
Am I missing something? Are the TSA guidelines congressionally mandated?
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u/starshard0 Oct 06 '17
The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of Representatives and Ernest Hollings in the Senate, passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001.
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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '17
Lol at this guy making this seem so simple. Also, what about people on the first floor? #lobbylivesmatter