r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Aug 25 '17
Popular bodybuilder Rich Piana passes away. Naturally someone has to drop the "S" word. It doesn't go over well in a community of bodybuilders.
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u/flippyfloppityfloop Aug 25 '17
"Looks like the drug use caught up with him"
"STFU UNLESS YOU KNOW THE EXACT HIGH-RISK MIX OF DRUGS HE WAS ON LIKE WE DO"
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u/jfa1985 Aug 25 '17
Same thing back when Zyzz died.
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u/tommy2014015 Aug 25 '17
"Anabolic steroids should be legalised because it's a private thing and when used responsibly as people are bound to do it's not a health risk"
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Aug 26 '17
Zyzz actually did have a congenital heart defect though. The gear and coke use didn't help, but still...
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u/Fletch71011 Aug 25 '17
Like Piana though, Zyzz was also abusing other drugs. Not sure what drives these people to combine all these substances that we know so little about but it seems insane to me. You'd think 1 or 2 vices would be enough.
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Aug 25 '17
Not sure what drives these people to combine all these substances that we know so little about
feels good man
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Aug 25 '17
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u/tommy2014015 Aug 25 '17
When Zyzz died I still remember people trying to say his cardiovascular problems had NOTHING to do with his steroid use. It's bullshit. Yeah he had a congenital defect but his steroid use without doubt put him in more danger.
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u/Jhaza Aug 26 '17
I mean... I can't really blame them. I get mad when my girlfriend calls PoE (or LoL) an MMO, because it's not. If someone died playing Overwatch or something, and someone blamed it on MMO addiction, I'd correct them. If it was a gaming subreddit and someone said, "oh, whatever, it's an online game that's the same as an MMO"... I think they'd get the same reaction we saw here.
Honestly, to me, this looks more like an in-group/out-group communication issue than a "drugs are fine, lalalala Icanthearyou" thing.
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u/michaelisnotginger Aug 25 '17
I do not understand the hero worship of this guy. He was entertaining and it's sad he's died but anyone who's seen him in the last few years has seen how ill he looks. I saw him at body power in the UK 2 years ago and he was huge but he looked very ill. He had clear addictions to getting bigger. Just a clear demonstration of body dysmorphia and a warning sign
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u/BonyIver Aug 25 '17
For real, I'm struggling to see how anyone could look at this dude and say "yeah, that's a healthy look, I want to look like that".
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u/JessumB Aug 31 '17
I think it is its own subculture within the already existing subculture of bodybuilding. He went completely out of his way to push the bounds of what is safe or healthy, even for the average pro bodybuilder who is on a cocktail of all kinds of drugs throughout much of the year. Dude pushed his body to the breaking point.
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u/lvysaur Aug 26 '17
No one did, lol. He was a freaky cool mass monster- during his last blast the sub was betting on whether he'd die before he finished it
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Aug 25 '17
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u/BonyIver Aug 25 '17
Naw people are free to look how they want, but if people were saying that an incredibly obese person, or someone who stayed extremely skinny by using copious amounts of drugs was their physical role model I would have the same reaction. Are we gonna pretend that he wasn't living an incredibly unhealthy lifestyle, and that hasn't put him and many other people in an early grave? I'm not sure why this is any more controversial than saying we shouldn't actively promote bulimia and other eating disorders.
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u/flippyfloppityfloop Aug 25 '17
Yeah, "heroin chic" is rightly regretted in fashion circles now. Shit, Bill Clinton weighed in on that trend. (And those models weren't even officially confirmed to be on drugs, they just looked like they were.)
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u/Youwokethewrongdog Aug 26 '17
He was a genuinely nice person in a world that can get very catty.
He was honest about his steroid use.
He was honest about supplements being largely bullshit, and the necessity of steroids in bodybuilding.
So yeah, basically he was honest and nice, and that's why I will miss him.
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u/oblivious622 Aug 26 '17
Eh, I would be cautious calling someone who went on a full blown disgusting racist tirade "honest and nice".
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u/Anwar_is_on_par Aug 25 '17
I remember a video where he said he had something he called "Bigorexia". Like the opposite of Anorexia.
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Aug 25 '17
Guy killed himself abusing substances chasing his ego and vanity and died from it.
He isn't a role model and he openly admitted to using anabolic steroids.
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u/Gary_FucKing Aug 27 '17
he openly admitted to using anabolic steroids.
That's kind of one of the things people liked about him. Having someone who talked about using and its affects was refreshing for a lot of people that use since most celebrities and athletes deny usage till the end (for good reason). You think marky mark gained 60lbs of lean muscle in two months by getting up early every morning and eating the right carbs? Either way, he's dead now which is frustrating for a lot of people in the bb community, since he was a pretty big (heh) part of it and it's frustrating to have people who have no idea what they're talking about come in and go "haha sterons did it all! xD". News flash, steroids can cause negative side effects, especially when used with other drugs over long periods of time. Who knew?!?! Oh right, everyone who knows anything about steroid use or bodybuilding in general.
Btw, not actually a piana fan nor do I use (tho I might hop on when I'm 50, who knows).
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Aug 25 '17
To you he isnt to some of us he was. Honest and dedicated. Openly admitted his steroid use and discouraged young people from taking them
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u/njuffstrunk Aug 25 '17 edited Aug 25 '17
I don't know the dude at all but for me "Don't use steroids, I did AND LOOK AT HOW RIPPED I GOT" seems rather contradictory.
Seems like he was loved in your community though and I'm sure you have your reasons.
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u/Aetol Aug 25 '17
Honest
about his drug use
and dedicated
to fucking up his health? Such a great role model.
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u/Not_A_Doctor__ Aug 25 '17
Honestly, I pray for your children, it's clear they weren't raised by an open minded humble person, I would say unintelligent but I think your posts speak for themselves.
That's kind of an awkward prayer, you know.
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Aug 26 '17
Oh Lord,
I pray for the children of Glasgowsvoice, who failed to be raised by an open-minded or humble person. I wouldn't say Glasgowsvoice is unintelligent, but I think his posts speak for themselves.
Jesus, I thank you that you made me a humble and open-minded person, unlike Glasglowsvoice; I wouldn't call myself intelligent, but I think my posts speak for themselves, and for that I thank you.
Amen.
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u/buartha Aug 26 '17
Wow. Good for you. I'm proud you became 50. What a lifetime achievement.
Well, he is from Glasgow, he's probably the town Elder
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u/mrpopenfresh Aug 26 '17
That's not controversial. Rich Piana was on everything, a lot of everything.
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Aug 25 '17
Snugglebunnies?
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u/xjayroox Aug 25 '17
I love you
Now I need to re-read the entire Bloom County series from the beginning again
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u/Reppinhigh Aug 26 '17
I don't get it Are they DEFENDING performance enhancing drugs like steroids? or just saying it wasn't steroids alone..?
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u/arbitrarycharacters Aug 26 '17
I don't think they're defending steroids. Just saying that it wasn't just steroids that killed the guy.
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u/tommy2014015 Aug 25 '17
Look I love working out and lifting weights was probably one of the best personal journeys I've made but the subculture around bodybuilding is fucking toxic.
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u/myps3brokeYo Aug 26 '17
He dies from head trauma, because when he collapsed, he fell and hit his head, that is why he was in medical induced coma
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u/oh_my_jesus Aug 26 '17
Well why don't we look at someone who is around the same age who abused steroids, gh and insulin more than Piana did? Dorian Yates is still alive and kicking, and so is Arnold, Stallone, Ferrigno, Zane, Coleman, etc. Have steroids had a major impact on their lives? Yes, both positively and negatively. But the same could also be said of former pro athletes and sports. What makes things more dangerous is the other factors involved, such as recreational drug use (besides the gear). Were steroids a factor? Yes, they were, as was his weight, but they weren't the main factors in Piana's death.
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Aug 26 '17
Why even a gray are? Why are people judging him for a choice he made about his own body?
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u/angelomike Aug 26 '17
Those body builders have sharp tongues haha. I haven't see anyone be put in their place as good as that in a long time.
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Aug 26 '17
Yeah. I don't understand why everyone here is acting like the steroids must have had something to do with it. Perfectly healthy people OD and die all the time.
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u/no_sense_of_humour Aug 25 '17
"He died because he took steroids"
"Actually, he also took HGH, insulin, Tren, whole bunch of other shit"
Yeah I don't think that weakens his point at all...