r/SubredditDrama • u/TummyCrunches A SJW Darkly • Mar 09 '16
Gender Wars In which being labelled a misogynist on a dating app is comparable to McCarthyism
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u/bonerbender Mar 10 '16 edited Mar 10 '16
It comes down to this: Would you rather live in a society where you can say what you'd like, even if it might offend people, or would you rather be subject to constant scrutiny?
I mean, maybe I'm the paragon of humanity but I have no trouble avoiding calling people "fags", "cunts", and "niggers". I didn't realize it was that ridiculously high of a bar. Then again, if I was the paragon of humanity my barometers would be out of wack.
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u/klapaucius Mar 10 '16 edited Mar 10 '16
Look, racist slurs are one thing, but "misogynist"? There should be limits to what you can call someone.
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u/flintisarock Mar 10 '16
I think I speak for all of reddit when I say: the only bad ones are the ones that apply to me.
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u/LIATG Mar 09 '16
Why not? Is there a new Godwin's Law?
Does there need to be a silly Internet law for you to understand? Fine.
LIATG's law: Comparing dumb shit to McCarthyism is dumb and wrong
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u/Cylinsier Mar 09 '16
Twat's law: if you use "plebian" as an insult unironically, you are a twat.
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u/nihil_novi_sub_sole Mar 10 '16
What if I'm a Roman senator who wants to remind my social inferiors of their place, but I still feel that, at the end of the day, everyone is a Roman citizen in their own way?
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u/riemann1413 Mar 09 '16
but how do i describe people who don't know esoteric memes? or like cheap liquor? what if they enjoy chain restaurants???
shudder
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u/macinneb Mar 09 '16
Shocker, a guy labelled as a TRPer not willing to call misogynistic bullshit misogynistic.
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u/TeaAddiction Mar 09 '16
Just out of curiosity, how can you distinguish between entitlement with the basis in sexism, and that which is out of a narcissistic personality disorder?
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Mar 10 '16 edited Mar 10 '16
You can't diagnose narcissism over the internet, so wiser to just assume they're assholes that are entitled.
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Mar 09 '16 edited Mar 10 '16
Found the dude from the original creepy PM
Edit: fuck you youtube! That joke sucks ass if it the link doesn't jump straight to the video.
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u/Oxus007 Mar 09 '16
While it is strange to see actual support staff respond that way, I can't make myself feel too badly for the guy.
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u/TotesMessenger Mar 10 '16
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Mar 10 '16
Man, r/drama is like bizarro SRD (or is it the other way around?)
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Mar 10 '16
Srd is like office gossip, can be petty and catty but you still have to maintain some decor. r/drama is like being at the bars with your friends where you can be obnoxious as you want and the only consequences is everyone around you will judge and make fun of you if you act like too big of an idiot
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u/thesilvertongue Mar 09 '16
It's not McCarthyism to call someone a communist who is actually a communist. The comparison doesn't quite work.
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Mar 09 '16
kinda is, it's not like McCarthyism was just about wildly accusing random people, it was also about persecuting people and making their lives hell just for having communist leanings/ties (including when it was true)
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u/blackangelsdeathsong Mar 10 '16
Thats ironically the type of logic the McCarthyists used.
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u/Cielle Mar 09 '16
McCarthy did target some people who were actually communists, though
I don't think you want to make that your criterion here
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u/Vivaldist Mar 10 '16
he got 25 upvotes for this shit
When you run out of come-backs, just start saying whatever you see I guess.
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u/flintisarock Mar 10 '16
Bunch of fucken white and black lines, arranged in such a way that I can infer linguistic meaning from them. More appearing as I jab my fallanges at the screen.
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u/uxbnkuribo Mar 09 '16
Free speech only applies to me. If you're offended, you're violating my free speech.
Also, most people who complain about everyone being offended are just mad they get called out for being dicks.
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u/RIPGeorgeHarrison Mar 10 '16
To add on to this, I get the whole 1st amendment vs principle of free speech thing, but I think really that only goes so far. This is definitely not a case where I would say "free speech" applies (because no doubt, that is EXACTLY what this person would say when told his rights were not being violated).
Every time I hear someone say, that "no one's 1st amendment rights are being violated", with a follow up saying "free speech goes beyond the amendment", we need to consider what the situation is. Is a misogynistic piece of shit being called out on their behavior? They absolutely should be called out on their behavior. There is no reason to show that such behavior will be tolerated in society. Someone loudmouth yam's contract with a news station gets cancelled after he says something racist about Mexican people? I don't see a problem here. A company fires a series of workers say that the working conditions for the company are terrible? Now we have a case of the principle of free speech but not the 1st amendment being relevant.
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u/SortaEvil Mar 10 '16
If you are going to kick mysoginistic douchebags off of OKC, you're not going to have a lot of male users left.
You might end up with an influx of female users, though, if your dating website wasn't a shithole quagmire of misogynistic douchecomments. At the very least, it would be an interesting differentiating point.
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u/_sekhmet_ Mar 09 '16
You forgot the crucial "choose the casual sex option" step there. Most male users will just send you "What's up" or "hey beautiful" messages when you have long/short term dating checked. If you mark that you are looking for casual sex the creeps come running. Just today I got a message from a guy asking me for my email. I gave him a throw away one on a wimp. I now have an inbox filled with pictures of his dick. They are all terrible pictures too, they don't flatter his dick at all. There are also a lot of guys who send me messages like "Can I cum on your glasses?", "hey babe, wanna sit on my face?" and "Tits?"
For the most part there's nothing threatening, or hateful, just stupid. When guys send me messages like that, I just delete the message, block them, and get on with my life.
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u/dermanus Mar 09 '16
If you don't believe me, make a fake female account with stock photos and watch the "ey bby" messages roll in. It's kind of a shitty place.
I actually did do this a few years ago and I didn't get any of those kinds of messages. I got a bunch of annoying 'sup?' type messages but nothing raunchy.
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u/TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK Mar 09 '16
or perhaps a very small number of male users contact many female users.
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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '16
Does the website okcupid have an actual relationship with that sub or is it an unofficial gathering place for okcupid users?