r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Feb 11 '16

Royal Rumble Someone links to a /r/civ post from /r/shitstatistssay. Everyone in /r/civ gets into an argument over the ideals of libertarianism.

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u/Felinomancy Feb 11 '16

Why do Reddit Libertarians think "haha it's a 'go to Somalia shit'" is an ironclad defense to their refusal to pay taxes?

Your property - e.g. your house - is only yours because society recognizes it as such, and therefore would help you defend it if challenged. If you therefore refuse to contribute to society via taxes, then "get the hell out of my society" is a legitimate argument.

What, you have your farm or factory or whatever? Cool, you can truck out all the soil in your property if you wish. But you cannot stay and enjoy the protections of the society without paying for it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '16 edited Feb 11 '16

Because they don't actually have a way to argue with the Somalia thing. All they can do is pretend it's a logical fallacy.

edit: it's like, "There you go again." It's not actually a counter-argument, it's just avoiding the question and acting like the person bringing up a state without a government is somehow incorrect for doing so.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '16 edited Feb 12 '16

You Marxist cucks keep repeating this like a broken record but you're not intelligent enough to understand that simply repeating a claim doesn't make it true, you uninformed fucking git. Fact of the matter is libertarian economics beats the fuck out of you bitches until your skulls get smashed flat and your monkey brains seep out in a nasty pink goo. It empirically and historically works more than any other statist cunt breadline forming mass murder system has ever done, the fucking doubling of the world's population since 1980 and the decimation of the poverty rate at the same time due to capitalism is just one example.

Libertarians - 1 Commie mass murderers - 0

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u/Illogical_Blox Feb 12 '16

Totes, do you even understand what you do?

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u/subheight640 Feb 11 '16

I always enjoy Libertarian drama. Gets me riled up like no other topic.

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u/flirtydodo Feb 11 '16

When they don't debate the morality of fucking child slaves they are honestly my favorites

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u/riemann1413 Feb 11 '16

it's hilarious to me that the snoo on r/shitstatistssay is a neckbearded, fedora wearing, narwhal baconing redditor saying "Roads!"

everyone on reddit imagines everyone else is the neckbearded sad virgin who doesn't know his butt from his ass

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u/professorwarhorse Feb 11 '16

It really is amazing how just about everyone uses neckbeard as an insult.

Well, except for the people who feel its ableist. Didn't SRS ban the insult at some point?

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u/ostrich_semen Feb 11 '16

doesn't know his butt from his ass

Uhh... Are they different?

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u/riemann1413 Feb 11 '16

lmao look at this guy

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u/Vivaldist Feb 12 '16

Neckbeard is about equal to SJW in terms of descriptiveness nowadays.

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u/Ikkinn Feb 11 '16 edited Feb 12 '16

Aw shit linked thread that I was in from the outside. Fuck those libertarians man I don't have patience for them anymore. It's like reliving every college debate with a person that never studied economics that had conservative leanings that I've ever had.

Don't they realize that economics is about as conservative friendly a field there is in academics and even they ridicule this libertarian bullshit? It's almost as if they forget their precious lassiez faire policies were a complete disaster. Or you're automatically a socialist if you believe the government ought to have any role in the economy at all.

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u/ostrich_semen Feb 11 '16

Fuck those libertarians man I don't have paitents for them anymore.

Yeah, I haven't gone to the libertarian doctor since he told me that treating liver cancer would just make my liver dependent on government handouts.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '16 edited Feb 11 '16

It's empirically wrong too. Libertarianism is faith-based economics. Faith that this time, for once, things will happen in a way that they've shown to never ever happen in the past.

Coming from a bunch of socialists, that's rich.

Empirically wrong haha I would love for them to show how their economic models of predicting human behavior is empirically sound.

It's more empirically sound because it actually acknowledges mathematics' and sciences existence like, as a concept.

Literally -- Austrian economics, from the mouths of the founders themselves, reject all forms of empirical data as being irrelevant. This isn't a joke, it isn't making fun of them. From Ludwig von Mises himself, verbatim, on Austrian economics' theories:

Its statements and propositions are not derived from experience... They are not subject to verification or falsification on the ground of experience and facts.

It's literal economic theology.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '16 edited Feb 11 '16

What, are you saying that the Austrian model of declaring mathematics wrong if it disagrees with the core tenets of Austrian economics has problems? Are you implying that Austrian economics might not be scientifically sound?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '16

Lack of prax.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '16

I came in here all excited to hate on statisticians. I am disappointed :(

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u/Wiseduck5 Feb 12 '16

And they think they will be the warlords captains of industry.