r/SubredditDrama • u/DrunkEwok • Feb 04 '16

"Cooking with Registered Sex Offenders." User in /r/DeepIntoYouTube debates whether the star of an obscure cooking video, who happens to have a conviction for sexual abuse, is deserving of some sympathy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '16

I love reddit's obsession with every man on the sex offender registry being there because some system had it out for him when he was caught peeing in public or having sex with a 17 year old girlfriend while they were 18. No one actually commits sex crimes, the system just has it out for them.

Did I say love? I meant "really fucking hate".

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u/zxcv1992 Feb 04 '16

Doesn't the sex offender registry usually tell you the offence most times anyway, so you'll be able to see what he did to be put on there in the first place.

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u/beanfiddler Feb 04 '16

I get these neat little postcards delivered to my residence that usually detail the exact crime. Like the one I got three or so weeks back, where some 40-year-old guy was convicted of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping of a minor. He lives just around the corner.

Pretty sure that's not a drunken naked-in-public escapade.

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u/forgotacc Feb 04 '16

I know NY does. Would just link, but not sure if that is against the whole no-personal-information rule even though it's public. But, NY's list pretty much lists everything, including the age of the victim. So you'll know if it was simply just a 18yr/17yr old situation or something else. Not sure how other states work, though.

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u/thephotoman Feb 04 '16 edited Feb 04 '16

They'll say what the convictions were and some details about the victims in some states.

I'm currently going through the list in my zip code. So far, a lot of "indecency with a child" and a few CP convictions. One guy kidnapped and raped a girl. I'll let y'all know if I find one that's questionable (underage at the time of offense or something stupid like public urination).

Current vanilla rape convictions: 3

First one that's kind of questionable: Burglary intending to commit another felony. No details about why that guy is on the registry (why it's questionable). There are two such people in the registry for that. Another one actually has that conviction, but also has a rape attempt there as well on the same conviction date.

Everything else so far has involved a child. No minors are on the list, and nobody on the list was a minor at the time of their conviction.

ETA: Done. There were 3 vanilla rape (victim of age in Texas--there's a fourth where the victim was of age in the state the crime was committed but not of age in Texas), and two burglaries with the intention of committing another felony without specifying what the other felony was (and no other felony conviction).

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '16

It'll tell you what they were convicted for, but not what the crime was. If it's a felony, there's a strong chance the victim was under 14.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '16

They've amended charges/crimes to list them like say "criminal sexual assault AOV 13 - 17 yo" aka age of victim under 17. They usually include a range of 13 - 17 and under 13. and for adults stuff like "Aggravated Criminal Sexual Abuse/victim >60"

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u/emmster Feb 05 '16

Yes, it does. I looked up my neighborhood just out of curiosity. The charge they're convicted on is prominently displayed. Some of them were "indecent exposure," which could plausibly be drunken pee incidents. "Kidnapping and sexual battery," not so much.

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u/DayMan4334 Feb 05 '16

Yes, and when I've checked it they all seem to be sex abuse or assault or rape. Some they don't specify, still never seen examples that people love to use on this site.

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u/FaFaFoley Feb 05 '16

Even when they actually know the dude committed a brutal rape, reddit can still find sympathy.

I apologize in advance for lowering your faith in humanity.

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u/switchin_it Feb 04 '16

I love reddit's obsession with every man on the sex offender registry being there because some system had it out for him when he was caught peeing in public or having sex with a 17 year old girlfriend while they were 18. No one actually commits sex crimes, the system just has it out for them.

I think the sex offender registry is such a sticking point for reddit for 2 reasons. Leaning very left, members at large feel that this falls outside the criminal restitution system we have in our country. You don't have a grand larceny registry, or even a murder registry. Just for sexual offenses that include a disparate set of offenses.

Secondly, they're mostly teens and college-aged demographics, so they're lesser able to empathize with the reason why such a registry was put in place, which is parents feeling secure about their kids' safety. I know how this subreddit likes to counterjerk, but the internet is serious business y'all!

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u/klapaucius Feb 04 '16 edited Feb 04 '16

Leaning very left, members at large feel that this falls outside the criminal restitution system we have in our country.

I'd say it's more directly related to MRA "rape accusations are a tool used to oppress men" sort of beliefs. The "you can do something innocuous and get branded a sex offender for life" thing, and the "getting caught peeing outside" story specifically, is so scary to some people that they practically expect it, similarly to how a kid who just watched Nightmare on Elm Street might hear a bump outside his room and expect it to be Freddy Krueger.

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u/lionelione43 Feb 04 '16

Honestly that's kinda it. It's more the fact that the registry contains both "I serial rape babies" and "I once tooks nudes of myself when I was 17" and "I once pissed in public outside a bar". Just saying someone's in the registry doesn't immediately make me think "baby raping pedo" anymore, it makes me ask "now why are they on that registry".

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '16

We don't allow nuanced emotions here.

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u/lordoftheshadows Feb 04 '16

Nuance is allowed. You can be either different shades of Hitler or different shades of kittens. You could be super Hitler or mega Hitler or maybe vaguely threatening Hitler. You could also be my kitten or you could be someone else's kitten which is intrinsically wrong because we all know that I should have every kitten in the world.

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u/thesilvertongue Feb 04 '16

It's one thing to feel bad for him. It's another to completely diminished and excuse his crime by saying that he obviously only peed in the woods.

Do they really agree that he deserves it? I didn't get that impression.

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u/larrylemur Feb 04 '16

Not saying he's a good person. I do pity him though. If Frodo can find pity for Gollum, who murdered his friend, you can find pity for this guy.

Uhh...not seeing how that's relevant

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u/zxcv1992 Feb 04 '16

The lord of the rings is always relevant

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u/LegendReborn Feb 04 '16

Definitely but Frodo is able to truly pity Gollum because he can truly empathize with Gollum's pain since they've both carried the ring. I'm not sure that I'd make the same analogy toward someone who sexually abused a minor.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '16

"I'm so mature for my age!"

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"The most apt comparison I can make to forgiving the person who raped you is lord of the rings"

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u/PinkSugarBubble Feb 05 '16

Why the fuck are people sympathizing with a rapist? Jesus Christ. I swear, people on this site are more ready to sympathize with a rapist than an actual rape victim. Well, only if she's a woman actually.

This is so true. Whenever the subject of rape of a woman comes up there are "two sides to every story." When it's a man who was raped then it's an inexcusable crime with zero grey area.