r/adventuretime • u/I_really_am_Batman I am the End • Nov 07 '15
"Football" Episode Discussion Thread!
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u/PigEqualsBakon Nov 07 '15
Put that traffic cone back on young man.
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Nov 08 '15
I swear I heard Joshua in that line.
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Nov 08 '15
That's why I love the dogs so much! Finn, jake, and Jermaine seem a lot like other brothers I know, and they've definitely captured how to show a family. Joshua and Margaret are both lovably misguided, but obviously really care for their kids, what with all the holo messages at least.
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u/sonicfan91 Nov 07 '15
THIS IS GETTING WAY TOO REAL FOR A BMO EPISODE
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u/McGoliath Nov 11 '15 edited Jan 17 '16
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u/leejoint Nov 20 '15
I thought like you for the whole ep, but in the end i got the feeling, BMO is mad enough to have made all that adventure, knowing he would be fine of course, but it was all in his mind recreating a movie for himself like always for fun. For example, he knew finn and jake were relaxed that day and all and he knew the duck all along and that is why jake and all were so worried of his attitude, imagine all the characters that appear on mirror are just him actually doing it so they only see him doing it and think shit hes crazy, and he makes the trip like that for his fun just making fun for him you know :)
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u/Abstker Nov 09 '15
I was way too high for this episode.
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u/ShaolinShade Nov 20 '15
I marathon watched all of the latest episodes (hadn't gotten around to watching any of them yet) the other night on a decent dose of MXE. Good glob was that a trip. 10/10 would do again.
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u/SgtWiggles Nov 07 '15
"You doing robot puberty or something?"
Lol Finn
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u/laughysaphy Nov 07 '15
in moments like this it strucks me that Finn really has grown so much since the first season. and I wonder whether anything is going to change in the plot after he turns 18. I mean, it's already heavy, but in terms of Finn's own issues
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u/usainboltron5 Nov 09 '15
He's close to 16 or 17 right now!
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u/MikeMo243 Nov 15 '15 edited Nov 17 '15
Finn is a little older than me and I'm 17 so he must be 17 already!
Edit* come to think of it I think finn is about to turn 18 I think
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u/sundreano Nov 13 '15
i always wonder if jake is going to die during the course of the series
suspect that they're going to find a way to show that he has a longer lifespan because he's part stretchy blue demon or w/e
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u/cubictortoise Nov 07 '15 edited Nov 07 '15
Remember when football orgasmed or something after he rubbed the grass on his/her face? That's what I call robobo puberty
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u/ChandlerTheHuman Nov 07 '15
It's really sweet how accepting and supportive Finn and Jake are.
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u/neoliberaldaschund Nov 07 '15
Yeah, I wouldn't know how to have handled it. They did good.
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u/ChandlerTheHuman Nov 07 '15
I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to hear Jake's heart to heart with BMO. I love it when Jake gives advice and it sounded like it was going to be really good advice too.
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u/Rogbull Nov 07 '15
BMO beat the shit out of Neptr and Finn only reacted when he trashes the bathroom? I don't know if I'd call that good.
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u/Sithsaber Nov 07 '15
Until their kid broke down, destroyed the house and fell off the third story roof.
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u/vadergeek Nov 07 '15
It's sweet if Football is BMO being odd, it's less helpful if Football is an alternate-dimension cuckoo.
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Nov 08 '15
TBH I've been thinking of Football like an SCP almost. Like, Football is a sentient reflection that cannot interact with living beings.
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u/McGoliath Nov 11 '15 edited Jan 17 '16
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u/ChandlerTheHuman Nov 11 '15
Yeah I think that Jake noticed way more than Finn did. Finn kept calling him BMO anyway and Jake had to keep reminding him to say football instead and even went out to make sure BMO was okay and everything, while Finn thought it was just BMO being silly. Still, I'm sure if Finn understood what was going on he'd still be just as supportive as Jake was being _^
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Nov 07 '15
It really is. With BMO and Football being opposite genders, I sort of had to liken this to the whole "what is BMO's gender" thing. So, seeing Finn and Jake totally be rad in a situation where most parents lose their shit is really cool.
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u/sonicfan91 Nov 07 '15
NEPTR NO
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u/Kajel-Jeten Nov 07 '15 edited Jul 05 '17
Are they going to be okay?
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u/Le_poorly_drawn_user Nov 09 '15
tbh i forgot NEPTR even existed and by the looks of things no one really likes him anyway
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u/arktic_P Nov 14 '15
What the donk are you talking about?!? NEPTR made pie at the family meeting and everybody loved eating it!
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u/hannibalthellamabal Nov 07 '15
So are BMO and Football two separate beings or is BMO just a bit cray cray cray? I think Football is her own being as does my mom (who thinks Adventure Time is too random but that BMO is adorable).
I loved the look of the mirror-washroom. So clever and inventive. This season's design and artwork is top notch so far.
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Nov 07 '15
Seems like Dissociative Identity Disorder. Both are real pretty much, at least in BMO's reality
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u/Lemurrific Nov 07 '15
That's what I was thinking. Adventure Time already has handled the struggles with Alzheimer's using Ice King already, so it's not much of a stretch that BMO/Football represents another mental health disorder.
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u/bacon-a-la-mode Nov 07 '15
I really couldn't tell if Bmo and Football were two seperate beings or not.
The fact that they actually showed the in mirror perspective made me think.
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u/Fortyseven Nov 08 '15
Probably just imagery from BMO's imagination. Still spooky, though.
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u/TheHarpyEagle Nov 07 '15
I guess Football is just... real to BMO.
But then again, apparently Football interacted with Carlos so who knows.
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u/Chezzymann Nov 07 '15
That was the reflection, so in the real world bmo would also be slapping carlos
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u/Way_Moby Nov 07 '15
I really liked that it was ambiguous. Is this all in BMO's imagination? Is Football real? We may never know.
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u/Jia-the-Human Nov 07 '15
Yeah that's also what I thought after the episode, Football seems to be a subprogram run by BMO to the point that that subprogram can take over their BMO body if certain psychological conditions are met, like touching the reflection, or something like that. And it'd be programmed in such a way that BMO sees it in his reflection, it probably started just as BMO imagination and ended up going too far. That also explains why Football didn't knew about the outside world, since it's program was associated with the mirror of the bathroom, and could only run when BMO was in front of it, but once it took over BMO's body it actually got to see the outside world which expanded his mirror world so he was not only associated with the bathroom mirror anymore, on the other hand BMO, who already know all those places and hadn't been created as a bathroom mirror restricted program could manifest freely on any reflection even though Football thought that by avoiding the bathroom she would avoid BMO.
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u/Codename13 Nov 07 '15
Wow, I thought feeling the feels towards the two lumps from "Chips and Ice Cream" was weird. This episode was actually pretty great. It was a mix of humour and angst, especially with Football trying to break all the reflective surfaces to cut off access to the mirror world. I was actually afraid for a second that BMO would end up trapped in the mirror world, and Football would impersonate BMO for the rest of time. Anyways, this episode concludes the week of Adventure Time's Season 7 premier and I really like how the episodes this week have been. We had the perfect balance of fun episodes, feels episodes, and a bit of character development. I'm liking this style (versus the existential themes all throughout Season 6, which were okay, but a bit heavy) so far, and I can't wait to see where the series will take us this season. Also, doesn't Stakes start next week?? :)
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u/Shuuuun Nov 07 '15
This episode was TENSE. Football going rebel and trapping BMO in the mirror was actually pretty scary.
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Nov 08 '15
Man and the crazy thing I couldn't get over is how football is doing that to the only person she loves
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u/speedyskier22 Nov 07 '15
In my opinion Chips and Ice Cream felt more random with no real emotion. "Football" felt a lot more emotional and left me feeling really sad for whoever would end up getting stuck in the mirror world. Glad it had a happy ending though!
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Nov 10 '15 edited Nov 10 '15
It's hard to feel things in Chips and Ice cream because there's no context. We don't have even a foggy hint as to what they are or how the bear ended up with them. The title card suggests the bear is sad about someone who isn't there anymore, and that person was a rabbit and now his ears kind of look like rabbit's ears? If we had the slightest clue as to what his motivation was, it might be easier to feel for him.
I think the episode is just needlessly hard to read. Being subtle is one thing, but when most of your audience has no idea what you just said, it isn't necessarily because the audience is stupid and don't get your art. There's such a thing as just communicating badly. (Which is relevant to the theme of the episode, I guess.)
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u/magusmirificus Nov 07 '15
Whether Football is real or not, clearly Bmo thinks she is. This can't be chalked up to conscious make-believe; Bmo wouldn't destroy so much of his/her home in the name of a game he/she didn't even seem to be enjoying. Either there is a real mirror world, or Bmo has some serious psychological issues.
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Nov 07 '15 edited Nov 07 '15
From the first episode this season:
Jake: "Joke's on you, man! We spent all our treasure the other day!"
I wonder if they spent it all on grapefruits.
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u/Firetruckpants Nov 07 '15
They spent all their money in the Wildberry Kingdom in the episode Furniture and Meat
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u/Grayspence Nov 07 '15
Man, did anyone else find this episode to be unexpectedly unsettling? I wasn't expecting something like this from a BMO episode, but I'm actually super glad they went in this direction.
I really, really enjoyed it. Sorta felt like a representation of a gender/identity crisis. I can't speak from experience, but there seem to be some pretty convincing parallels.
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u/I_really_am_Batman Nov 07 '15
Football be all like