r/SubredditDrama • u/chaosakita • Jul 24 '15
Are housing prices high in San Francisco because the rest of America is "culturally barren, horribly dysfunctional, hideously ugly and disgustingly wasteful"? /u/fricken has a lot to say on the subject.
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Jul 24 '15
Villians usually have some kind of twisted logic they've bought into wherein they actually come to believe they're good. They just can't take things at face value, and would rather destroy everything than change their ways.
Is that you, Bendis?
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u/khanfusion Jul 25 '15
Pretty much every pre-war medium density neighbourhood that wasn't sliced and diced by urban freeways has a gentrification problem. What's fucked up is the sprawl.
This is being said in a tone that implies the Bay Area doesn't have this problem. Wat.
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u/qlube Jul 25 '15
This guy hates both high-rise condos and suburban sprawl? Where does he expect people to live?
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u/joedrew Jul 25 '15
Mid-rise apartment buildings or condos. Paris is almost entirely mid-rise, for example.
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u/UncleMeat Jul 25 '15
San Francisco I guess, whose government makes it insanely difficult to build high rises. Might explain why family sized apartments run $60k per year in rent.
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u/a57782 Jul 24 '15 edited Jul 24 '15
Is this guy real? He can't be real. He's too much of a walking stereotype.
Edit: Oh my shit, he's real. Redditor for 8 years.
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u/snallygaster Jul 25 '15
I did some hard time in the Bay Area and can say with confidence that people like him are a dime a dozen. The region is packed with self-important, culturally isolated people who genuinely believe that the world outside of California is a wasteland of ignorant, ugly, bigoted, under-educated gun-toting yokels. Many people in the Bay Area, particularly the people who were born and raised there, are completely out of touch with anything that lies beyond their own comfortable bubble. On top of that, the 'progressives' in the area often harbor a self-righteous 'white savior' complex in which they feel compelled to speak for disadvantaged people without having any meaningful interactions with those who are disadvantaged or remotely understanding what it's like to be in a vulnerable class. In doing this, they believe that they are above the unwashed masses in America at large because they are sensitive to the struggles of the people whose neighborhoods compel them to lock the doors of their cars while passing through. Of course, not all Californians are like this, but the amount of sanctimonious, out-of-touch people in that state is unreal. Boy do I have some stories...
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u/Saint_of_Grey Jul 25 '15
the world outside of California is a wasteland of ignorant, ugly, bigoted, under-educated gun-toting yokels
Hah, that's absurd. Everyone knows the world outside of California is a myth.
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u/DuckSosu Jul 25 '15
On top of that, the 'progressives' in the area often harbor a self-righteous 'white savior' complex in which they feel compelled to speak for disadvantaged people without having any meaningful interactions with those who are disadvantaged or remotely understanding what it's like to be in a vulnerable class.
Dude, that's nonsense. I totally get over to Oakland at least once a year. I know what it's like man. I follow a lot of activists on twitter.
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Jul 25 '15
True, but this guy definitely doesn't even live in SF. He posts regularly to r/canada and occasionally r/edmonton (strange because that's like the anti-SF). He probably visited once.
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Jul 25 '15
Reminds me of a guy I met who told me that $40k out of college was really terrible because he has lived in LA his whole life and he knows how money actually works because everywhere else is just terrible... Or something stupid like that.
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u/mysanityisrelative Jul 25 '15
Bay area is the cultural center of the universe? New York would like a word...
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u/ArchangelleDovakin Jul 25 '15
Housing prices are high in the city because the cost of fighting the countless EIRs required to move a project forward makes new housing development an almost guaranteed financial loss.
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u/Defenestratio Jul 25 '15
So as a result, SF has all the jobs and no housing. So of course that housing is going to be ass-fuckingly expensive. I know people with 2/3 hour commutes in SF just because they can't find anything closer that won't bankrupt them (fuck that shit, my commute is 2 minutes)
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u/ArchangelleDovakin Jul 25 '15 edited Jul 25 '15
You actually just brought up another great point: public transit is fucking terrible when looking at the intrametro system. If you work but don't live in SF proper, then you need to maintain your own transportation. Between bridge tolls, gas, maintenance, vehicle payments, insurance, and parking, you're easily looking at ten grand a year extra. This further increases pressure on the already strained housing market.
The Bay Area desperately needs its own MTA to bring the disparate systems into a single connected network.
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Jul 25 '15
Is there something in the water that makes people from "Cali" insufferable assholes?
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u/MainStreetUSA Jul 25 '15
Since California doesn't have water, I am inclined to believe it is something in the Starbucks.
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u/arkansastraffic Jul 25 '15
He has to be trolling, but on the off-chance he isn't, he should probably do some research. San Francisco is a wonderful place (probably my favorite big city in the world), but it also has its problems with gentrification.
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u/braindeathdomination Jul 25 '15
This guy is one of the problems with gentrification in the Bay Area. Smug, stuck-up yuppies who think they're going to save the world with organic toast cafes.
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Jul 25 '15
I'm going to guess he's a recent transplant to the Bay Area. They're always the most annoying.
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u/RhinestoneTaco Jul 26 '15
It's the "culturally barren" part that tickles me.
I'm fascinated by the varying cultures in the U.S., mostly because I'm fascinated by cultures in general -- how they form, the languages they use, how perspectives flow throughout them.
I cannot imagine living in a place and unironicly thinking that it's the only place with "culture."
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u/jizzmcskeet Jul 24 '15
Good find, OP.