r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • May 20 '15

"Are you equating posting of child porn to disagreeing with a mod?" Freedom of speech drama in TrueReddit.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '15

FWD:

Jesus balls. You understand the UN isn't talking about banning shitposting when they pass resolutions like that, right?

Support my right to post dank maymays.

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u/Hypocritical_Oath May 20 '15

Maymays or death.

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u/IronTitsMcGuinty May 21 '15

My only regret is that I have but one account to ban for my maymays.

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u/Magoonie May 21 '15

Well we're all out of Maymays! We only had three and didn't expect such a rush!

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u/zanotam May 21 '15

Socrates died for our right to shit post!

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u/FedaykinShallowGrave May 21 '15

"Pepe, we owe a dank meme to Asclepius. Please, don't forget to pay the debt."

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u/fathovercats May 21 '15

I'm just imagining the general assembly passing an amendment to ban shitposting.

Goooood lord.

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u/aalewisrebooted May 21 '15

I'm not that good at diplomatese, but here goes.

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the third stated purpose of the United Nations

To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion;

Reaffirming that all people are to uphold quality of content on the Internet,

Finding that low quality posts on the Internet present a negative effect on the development of humankind,

Ignoring the guarantee of the right to expression affirmed in article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,

Resolves to ban shitposting.

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u/Patrik333 May 21 '15

FWD:

I might be out of the loop here - do you just mean "Forward" here or is there an initialism that I don't know about (apart from "Four Wheel Drive...)

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u/ReallyCreative May 21 '15

People desperately need to take a Constitutional Law class, or even a human rights class, to understand why freedom of speech does not apply to private corporations or property.

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u/NewZealandLawStudent May 21 '15

Obviously the First Amendment to the US constitution doesn't apply to private entities, but there are still interesting debates about the application of the more universal principle of free speech to private parties. Specifically, media companies that control the dissemination of information and views.

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u/Isentrope May 21 '15

I mean, it's also right in the First Amendment that it's a restriction on Congress and the government. Maybe reading the thing would be helpful for some of these folks.

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u/IAMA_DRUNK_BEAR May 20 '15

Free Speech can be interpreted to mean "say anything you want with no repercussions." For example, according to the UN:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers

If youre banned from reddit for something you say, that denies your access to media.

Actually even you use his wildly inaccurate interpretation, Reddit as a private entity is entitled to exercise their own free speech by "censoring" his shit posting on the platform they own. You can stand out on the street and yell all day about why Rand Paul should be president, but as a private individual I have every right to shut the door and not listen.

The Founding fathers didn't intend to protect your phone from being searched by the po.

The founding fathers shed blood for this shit guys. See, it's right there in the preamble to the Constitution.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '15

I always found it interesting how Americans resort to the 'founding fathers' as if they were perfect ubermensch worthy of being your moral compass.

I mean, sure. They made the U.S a country, but by today's standards they would probably be extreme conservatives. And they were far from perfect.

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u/IAMA_DRUNK_BEAR May 21 '15

They were absolutely rabid conservatives. Thomas Jefferson's dream was an extreme isolationist nation ran by landowning white farm workers. Alexander Hamilton is probably the only founding father that wouldn't be abhorred by modern America.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '15

Ben & Jerrys needs to ride this freedom of speech wave and come out with "Ben & Jerry's Freeze Peaches" ice cream.

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u/emmster May 21 '15

Unironically, I wish they would. I fucking love peach ice cream, which I know exists, or at least used to, but I can never find it anymore.

So your flavor idea has at least one consumer based just on that. :)

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u/BettyDraperIsMyBitch May 21 '15

You should try making your own. I'm a kitchen noob and I can. My mom always made peach flavored during the summer.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '15

The old Ben & Jerry's near me had a "flavor graveyard" poster explaining how they'd discontinued their peach ice cream due to how much it cost to produce with fresh peaches.

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u/ussbaney May 21 '15

I'll shoot'em an email

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u/[deleted] May 20 '15

I don't really like to say this, but that dude is dumb!

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u/meepmorp May 20 '15

I don't really like to say this, but that dude is dumb!

Freedumb!

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u/CantaloupeCamper May 20 '15

Too dumb to help or just a troll.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '15

Trolls are worse than dumb. Being dumb is forgivable, being a Troll is just annoying.

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