r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Dec 20 '14

/r/facepalm discusses if being an ex-prisoner is justification to not believe someone, with a sprinkling of “you did an ad hominem” and “innocent until proven guilty” for flavor.

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u/TheHolyFonz Dec 20 '14

Never understood why we equate having been to prison with being subhuman garbage. There are many reasons a responsible, high-functioning, respectable man or woman would end up in prison. Drug use, tax fraud, false convictions, etc. Don't like see this attitude where if you've been to prison, you're treated like a dog. It doesn't seem right to me.

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u/salliek76 Dec 20 '14

Who is saying he's subhuman garbage? Isn't the (downvoted) commenter just pointing out that he is, in fact, a convict and that his credibility may therefore be suspect when it comes to whether or not he is a criminal? That doesn't seem unreasonable to me TBH.

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u/just_the_tip_mrpink Dec 20 '14

With the exception of a false conviction, none of the reasons you stated are a respectable reason to go to prison. Drug use? No one goes to prison for a joint. You go for large amounts (aka you're a dealer) or trafficking. Tax fraud? Personally, I believe if you skirt your share of social responsibility by refusing to pay your share of taxes you are a piece of shit. Tax evader, drug addict or dealer? You may not be subhuman scum that should be executed, but you're far from a respectable responsible person.

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u/ArchangelleDovakin Dec 20 '14

Because a lot of christians tend to forget about the "love the sinner" part of the quote.

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u/exarconda Dec 20 '14

reading 'ad hominem' in an argument is a sure sign for serious drama going on.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '14

This could also go to r/badlegaladvice seeing how they all seem to think his character would make a difference in court when it's very likely to be inadmissible (as most character evidence is).

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u/dethb0y Dec 21 '14

I dunno, this seems like such an issue that's down to the individual and the situation at hand, rather than something that can be at all generalized. I know ex-cons who i treat like anyone else. And i know ex-cons i wouldn't trust to wipe my ass. It's just down to the person.