r/india • u/sree_1983 • Aug 10 '13

[Weekly Discussion] Let's talk about:Maharashtra

State Maharashtra
Website http://maharashtra.gov.in/
Population 112,372,972
Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan INC
Capital Mumbai
Offical Language Marathi
GDP Rs 9,013,300/-
Sex ratio 922

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

Bombay, city where poor and rich live together. A city where I spent 6 months as a poor intern. So during my internship, these were few local cuisines which I kept my hunger at bay.

Apart from this various, street site Chinese vendors, selling really spicy Szechuan Fried rice, which I used to have it with curd :-)

Bombay, a city of fast life and fast food. That is how I always refer to the city to anyone else.

Special mention: Flora Fountain, book market.

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

would do anything for Sree Khand

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

I thought SriKhand was a gujju dish.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

No sir. The gujjus may claim many things, but not this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

Gujarat and Mumbai came under Bombay presidency. So a lot of things went back and forth around western ghats. They became separate states after independence. There was a dispute where Mumbai should belong similar to what is happening to Hyderabad today.

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

I am not sure but I absolutely love it

also You can get awesome Sree Khand in Katni Station (Madhya Pradesh)

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u/DesiCunt Aug 12 '13

haha, that was where I first had Sree Khand, I was expecting a lil high. Didn't quite meet my expectations.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '13

Sanchi

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u/blazerz Aug 10 '13

No saar. Shrikhand is Marathi.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Bombay, city where poor and rich live together.

If you are trying to be philosophical, poor and rich live together in every city. If not, then who is the poor guy in Antilia or Antillia or whatever it is spelled?

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

Yeah but then in Bombay it is different. A city where if you have only Rs 20/- a day you can survive same time people with Rs 200/- a day you can. No one cares. No one gives a shit. It is very different from other cities which I have lived in.

I am not a philosopher. Maybe I am looking at the city with rose tinted glass. Maybe bias is because, it was a city where I survived as a broke young man.

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u/qtya Aug 10 '13

Yeah but then in Bombay it is different. A city where if you have only Rs 20/- a day you can survive same time people with Rs 200/- a day you can.

When sree 1983 says so its alright, but when farooq abdullah says so all hell breaks loose

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

I commented on that thread about how I lived for Rs 20/-.

Anyways, I lived in Bombay in 2003, ten years ago. There used to be a temple which used to offer lunch for Rs 10/-. So you have Rs 10/- pending for night time. For night, I used to hit Vada Pav stalls which i used to get Vada Pav for Rs 3/-. So three Vada Pav for dinner. This used to be my weekend food. Weekdays were bit fine because I used to get Rs 20/- food coupon which can be redeemed for food in office Canteen. So I used to have Rs 20/- which I can spend in the night time. So, depending on my mood I used to save up little cash for weekend food fund.

I could survive because, I was young and had an iron belly that could eat anywhere and not get poisoned. These days I have lost my digestive Powers. Also, remember it was 10 years ago. You have to factor in inflation.

Edited: Changed a word

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u/phdinprogress Aug 10 '13

I have heard the same thing said by so many people about Chennai.

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u/atheist_trollno1 Oct 30 '13

Part of it is that almost everyone has to travel by local train/buses whether they are rich or poor because of distances and traffic. (unless they are filthy rich).

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

A question for you: why insist on referring to it as Bombay?

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u/agentbigman Aug 10 '13

Anyone who has lived in Bombay in the 90s or before will know why some people still refer to it as Bombay. Not just that, Many of us still refer to the names of various streets, places, buildings, etc with their original names. For Egs: Whenever you will stand in line to buy a ticket for a train or bus, you will hear people say VT (Victoria Terminus) instead of CST (Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus) or Prince of Wales Museum instead of Chatrapati Shivaji Museum.

They changed the name for whatever reasons, good or bad. But the moment the name was changed, somehow, years later, the city feels changed and so does the mood. The whole point of calling it by the old names is to cling and believe in the old idea of Bombay.

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u/Ar-Curunir Aug 10 '13

Yup, I was born in Bombay in 94, left in 2000.

It's still Bombay in my mind.

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u/gcs8 Aug 18 '13

The barbarians came, conquered, ravaged and left. They named this land Al Hind.

Even the Pakistanis say 'Bharat' !

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u/jhampya Aug 10 '13

Mumbai is a city, Bombay is an emotion

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

Bombay is a city, Mumbai is an emotion

-- Marathis

Bombay is a city, Bambai is an emotion

-- UP-Biharis

TDLR - Open your mind little bit.

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u/wanderingmind Aug 10 '13

Mumbai is something Maharashtrians say, Bombay is a city --- south indians

Face it, Bombay sounds right to non Maharashtrians and Bambai to BIhari-UPs. But officially, Mumbai will soon take over everywhere but while speaking or commenting, people will refer to it as Bombay. The reason is, to a non Maharashtrian, there is little they can see as Marathi in the city - they see capitalism, money, professionalism, rush - none of these things are Maharashtrian according to my Maharashtrian friends :D

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

You had to bring that up. Whatever, man.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Just dropped in to say: Bakwwaaass! I've really gotten used to Mumbai and I don't give a toss about Bandra-Churchgate 'Bombayites' who insist on calling it Bombay for reasons of 'class' and other equally vague significations.

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u/UlmoWaters Aug 12 '13

Well put.

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u/gcs8 Aug 10 '13

Condescension.

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u/iitii Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

Its classy!

EDIT: Since the mention of 'class' gained unwanted attention, I'd clarify that I personally feel Mumbai should be called Mayapuri (Courtesy r/bakchodi ).

I actually hate this class shit. Call it whatever you want! Its a city!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Because it's a colonial-era relic?

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u/dashonline Aug 10 '13

Because re-naming cities to appease dumb fucks is just moronic. Besides, it sounds better and people are used to it.

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u/Manoos Aug 10 '13

Saying Bombay now has started feeling old. most ppl say Mumbai now

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u/gcs8 Aug 10 '13

Exactly. Almost all the time I keep hearing Mumbai youngsters referring to their city by its new name.

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u/UlmoWaters Aug 12 '13

Bombay is nostalgia. No one refers to the city as Mumbai when reminiscing about the 90s or earlier.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '13

I find it odd, in my country we call the city "Mumbai" - we were taught that was the current, actual name.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

because then you can refer to posh part of the Mumbai as SOBO - South Bombay.

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

Dude its Maharashtra, South Indian food ,North Indian food ,you name it ,we have it ;)

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

But it made sense to talk about Street food in Bombay. You can let people know more about Maharashtra food :-)

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u/dashonline Aug 10 '13

You mean marathi version of south indian and north indian food.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '13

*Shetty version

FTFY :)

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 19 '13

Will try to put things which may/may not be known to people outside MH :

& finally would like to share this pic which I had submitted for college project,they made a poster out of it :

http://i.imgur.com/p8vEwqb.jpg?1?9756

Hope vidarbha farmers get as much attention as this futile Bombay/Mumbai issue.

EDIT :

EDIT : HOLY SHIT !! WHOEVER GAVE THE GOLD>>>THANKS A TON !!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Dude, is this Harishchandra Gadh video real? This looks unbelievably awesome!

How can you guys talk about Maharashtra without mentioning its theater culture :)

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u/MeManoos Aug 11 '13

theater culture :)

Sallu bhai has taken over next generation :(

Dude, is this Harishchandra Gadh video real? This looks unbelievably awesome!

It is 3hrs trek. Once you reach the top you can live in one of the caves. Google the location on map :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Your last point reminds me: some say sambhar comes from sambhaji, who, in some southern foray, made a tasty stew to feed his army, from popular southern spices and veggies.

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u/MeManoos Aug 11 '13

OH ...TIL ! ..Thanks !

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

Good compilation

Regret wasting so much time on thread where people are more interested in communal mud-fest than discussing original content for which this thread was started.

Agra bro ekdum. Kya tamasha ho reha hai yeha pe

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u/MeManoos Aug 11 '13

Abhi kya bolne ka bhai ! Tum hi dekho :P

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u/parlor_tricks Aug 10 '13

Idjit. I came here when I wasn't logged in to my acct. the top post was all interesting stuff. Yer edit let me know that something was up.

Thank you for your good job with all those links. And now like a true mumbaikars/bombayiite, chill Maar, aur kam kar.

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u/MeManoos Aug 11 '13

chill Maar, aur kam kar.

Roger that saar !

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u/supersharma Aug 13 '13

That Bal Thackeray cartoon is really nice. Well done, "Ek tha Tiger".

And that glimpse of Pu.La's writing is brilliant! One can only imagine how much better it is in its native Marathi. Really loved it. Thanks.

P Sainath said something similar about the Vidarbha-Lakme thing, didn't he?

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u/sree_1983 Aug 10 '13

Good sir,

I apologize for drama this thread has with regards to discrimination. Please continue to contribute.u are one of our esteemed contributers to this subreddit and this thread. Please do not lose your cool.

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u/MeManoos Aug 11 '13

Thank you saar for the support...appreciate !

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u/DrKraze Aug 10 '13

I am a Tam who lived in Maharashtra for a few years and it is one of my favorite states. Here are my Qs:

  1. Is there a way to get some works of Pula Deshpande in English?

  2. Who are some Maharashtrians that you think most non-Maharashtrians will love? Your nominations should be someone who is good in his field and has no known record of douchebaggery(not arrogant, not a regionalistic fella, open-minded, well-behaved at all times...)

  3. I've noticed that next to South Indians, a lot of Marati guys like to keep a moustache. Is there a cultural significance here? Or is this a question with no definite answer?

  4. How hard is it to learn Marati? I have a peculiar problem: I am a tamil who grew up speaking English and learnt French for donkey's years in school. In French all nouns have a gender. Since Hindi and most Indian languages have gender-based nouns, I really struggle to pick them up since I already know 3 languages(Eng, Fre, Tam), i find it very hard to unlearn them to learn a 4th language. Advice needed from the multi-linguals here.

This is for the Bombay raised Maratis: 5. Like Chembur for Southies, Vile Parle for Gujjus, what parts of Bombay can you find a high concentration of Maratis?

6. Does it feel odd about growing up in a city where in some areas about 70% of the people do not speak the official mother tongue?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

2) Rajni? :).. Atul Kulkarni, Dadasaheb Phalke, Savrkar ( There are many... I don't remember)

4) Not a native marati speaker, but i feel that marati is not "that" different from hindi*(I may be wrong)*, My friends from Agra were able to infer what I spoke in marati, where as my friend from bangalore were not able to.

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u/ychromosome Aug 10 '13

2) Rajni? :)

When I was in school, we had a Marathi classmate who claimed that before his mom was married, when Rajni was still a bus conductor, she used to travel in his bus regularly and Rajni had proposed to her. Apparently, she had rejected him.

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u/chengiz Aug 10 '13

Savarkar was a Hindu nationalist and fascist who was involved in Gandhi's assassination. We should be glad the likes of him didnt come to power, or India would have been a very different country.

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u/gcs8 Aug 11 '13

The way things are in India right now, I'm sure a lot of us wish it were a different country.

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u/swapnild Aug 10 '13

  1. I have always wondered about translations of Pu La's works myself. They dont translate very well. At least the observational comedies. I know I tried to do that for my wife and I bombed.

  2. We are most proud of our social reformers and activists: Vinoba Bhave, Baba Amte, Sane Guruji, Anna Hazare to name a few. Of course my personal hero is Sachin Tendulkar. I would love for the world to think of him when they think of Marathi people. Dominates his field, ambitious and soft spoken. Delivers. Bhimrao Ambedkar is my other marathi hero. Again, aggressive in non-violent ways. It sometimes makes me sad that there aren't any women in my list.

  3. No definite answer on preference for mustaches. We do because we can.

  4. Marathis is as easy or as hard as Hinid.

For Mumbai related question: The short answer is no. Most mumbaikars don't care about non-marathi speakers making a majority in the city. In fact the minority that IS bothered by "outsiders" has to go to great lengths to be heard. That's why Sena and MNS is so extreme. IMHO.

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u/Varkari Aug 10 '13

  1. Never heard about translations of Pu.La. in English. They might lose some magic when translated.

  2. Some great folks who hailed from Maharashtra region:

  • Tukaram: Radical thinker, his works are simply amazing.

  • Jijabai: The main force behind the foundation of the Maratha empire.

  • Santaji Ghorpade/Dhanaji Jadhav: Maratha Generals who led Maratha forces in the war of 27 years.

  • Maharani Tarabai: Queen during war of 27 years

  • Bajirao Peshva: led Maratha forces across Narmada.

  • Umaji Naik: revolutionary

  • Kanhoji Angre : Admiral Maratha Navy

  • Anandibai Joshi: First Indian doctor (female)

  • Babasaheb Ambedkar: Dalit messiah

  • Gadge Baba: Saint and reformer who fought againt superstitions.

  • D.K. Karve: Worked for women's welfare

  • K.D.Jadhav: Bronze at Helsinki Olympics

  1. Maharashtrians (atleast in rural side) keep mustaches because it's considered manly.

  2. Marathi grammer is a bitch (like any other grammar) but it is easy to learn conversational Marathi.

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u/Fixes_GrammerNazi_ Aug 10 '13

  1. Never heard about translations of Pu.La. in English. They might lose some magic when translated.

2. Some great folks who hailed from Maharashtra region:

  • Tukaram: Radical thinker, his works are simply amazing.

  • Jijabai: The main force behind the foundation of the Maratha empire.

  • Santaji Ghorpade/Dhanaji Jadhav: Maratha Generals who led Maratha forces in the war of 27 years.

  • Maharani Tarabai: Queen during war of 27 years

  • Bajirao Peshva: led Maratha forces across Narmada.

  • Umaji Naik: revolutionary

  • Kanhoji Angre : Admiral Maratha Navy

  • Anandibai Joshi: First Indian doctor (female)

  • Babasaheb Ambedkar: Dalit messiah

  • Gadge Baba: Saint and reformer who fought againt superstitions.

  • D.K. Karve: Worked for women's welfare

  • K.D.Jadhav: Bronze at Helsinki Olympics

3. Maharashtrians (atleast in rural side) keep mustaches because it's considered manly. 4. Marathi grammar is a bitch (like any other grammar) but it is easy to learn conversational Marathi.

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

PuLa doesn't translate well, unfortunately.

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u/swapnild Aug 10 '13

  1. I have always wondered about translations of Pu La's works myself. They dont translate very well. At least the observational comedies. I know I tried to do that for my wife and I bombed.

  2. We are most proud of our social reformers and activists: Vinoba Bhave, Baba Amte, Sane Guruji, Anna Hazare to name a few. Of course my personal hero is Sachin Tendulkar. I would love for the world to think of him when they think of Marathi people. Dominates his field, ambitious and soft spoken. Delivers. Bhimrao Ambedkar is my other marathi hero. Again, aggressive in non-violent ways. It sometimes makes me sad that there aren't any women in my list.

  3. No definite answer on preference for mustaches. We do because we can.

  4. Marathis is as easy or as hard as Hinid.

For Mumbai related question: The short answer is no. Most mumbaikars don't care about non-marathi speakers making a majority in the city. In fact the minority that IS bothered by "outsiders" has to go to great lengths to be heard. That's why Sena and MNS is so extreme. IMHO.

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u/aham_brahmasmi Aug 10 '13

4. Though I am not a native Marathi speaker, I would say that learning Marathi will not be very difficult if you know Hindi. Writing is done using the exact same script, so if you can read Hindi, you can read Marathi. Improving your vocabulary is a different story though.

Bombay raised Marathis

Dadar and Parel have very concentration of Marathis.

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u/chengiz Aug 10 '13

I would say it used to be true. Every flat in Central Bombay that a Maharashtrian vacates, rarely another Marathi will take. This is because middle class cant afford housing there any more, and if a Maharashtrian has money, he will spring for something in a new development because he doesnt want to be considered a ghati. The only areas still not gentrified are the Muslim and red light areas of South Bombay. Perhaps one day they will go too. Such is life.

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u/brownwog2 Aug 11 '13

But they do not make up the majority even there.

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u/reddit_kk Aug 10 '13

Who are some Maharashtrians that you think most non-Maharashtrians will love? Your nominations should be someone who is good in his field and has no known record of douchebaggery

I replied here http://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1k2giw/weekly_discussion_lets_talk_aboutmaharashtra/cbkv2au

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

Marathi people, I have read VS Khandekar (Translated in Hindi) - awesome writer

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u/illegalBriefs Aug 11 '13

Read works by P.L Deshpande

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

You haven't tasted misal, untill you eat the Kolhapuri Misal!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

You haven't tasted misal, untill you eat, digest, and shit out the Kolhapuri Misal!

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

I had kolhapuri in kolhapur, and saavji in Nagpur. Mother of God, if anything feels like suicide, those are it!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

if anything feels like suicide, those are it!

Pussy!!

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u/TheOneWhoKnocksBitch Aug 11 '13

Kolhapuri misal is waaaay too spicy for me, and I love spicy food! Chaila, jeebey cha tukda padhto. (It breaks off a piece of your tongue)

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u/vipster Aug 11 '13

Damn, a whole discussion on Maharashtra, and no mention of onions, grapes, sugar farmers cooperative movement which led to setup of higher ed institutions. Also j&k quota for refugee students in engineering colleges. I think it was the first place in the country to introduce the Israeli method of drip irrigation.

A very patriotic and unique state of India.

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u/reddit_kk Aug 10 '13

Some of the most talented maharashtrians are very humble. i am surprised by their humbleness and will not easily compromise talent or brag or be a douche. they are more focused on their art and talent than anything else

prominent examples

  1. cricket: Sachin and Gavaskar, harsha bhogle

  2. old stars: Madhuri, Urmila, Sonali Bendre,

  3. current stars/: nana patekar, Madhur Bhandarkar, Atul kulkarni, ashutosh gowariker, milind soman

  4. Plays/stage actors: ashok saraf, berde, sachin, Prashant Damle, Shriram Lagoo, Bharat Jadhav, Vikram Gokhale, Makrand Deshpande

5: astrophysics: jayant naraliker

6: badminton: prakash padukone

Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle

Pu La deshpande: simply brilliant

There have been tons of social reformers/social activists and freedom fighters falling in the same group

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Prakash Padukone - Karnataka

Harsha Bhogle - Hyderabad

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Prakash Padukone isn't Maharashtrian. He is a Konkani speaking person from Karnataka. And Bhogle may call Marathi his mother tongue, but he isn't Maharashtrian.

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u/locx Aug 10 '13

Dude you missed The Thackeray family. They are the true maharashtrian first family.

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u/supersharma Aug 13 '13

ashok saraf

Where'd this guy go? He was good in "Hum paanch".

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u/reddit_kk Aug 17 '13

he has forever been onscreen in Marathi movies/dramas since 80s. hum paanch was his first big hindi stint.

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u/BoredGargoyle Aug 15 '13

This line of family is pretty interesting: R.P.Paranjpe Shakuntala_Paranjpye Sai Paranjpye

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u/reddit_kk Aug 10 '13

South of Maharashtra gets tons of rainfall and konkan is one of the most picturesque places to visit. it is still quite virgin and in 10 20 years it will be fully explored. highway connectivity is good

here are pics from my konkan trip http://www.amitkulkarni.info/pics/india-road-trip-konkan/

Satara and around koyna dam is beautiful too. This is the perfect time to visit valley of flowers of deccan http://www.amitkulkarni.info/pics/kaas-valley-of-flowers/

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Shh! Don't tell them about Konkan. Let's keep it to ourselves. ;)

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u/locx Aug 10 '13

Man this site needs a serious upgrade. The image gallery especially needs keyboard navigation support. Overall reminded me of geocities era.

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

Trivia: Gandhi topi is still popular among Maharashtrian rural people - thanks to Sevagram an ashram set up by Mahatma Gandhi in Wardha

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

Even Gandhi family is still popular in rural MH :P

Talk to congress workers ,and bitches be like 'how Rahul inspite of being an NRI works hard for Desi issues!' ಠ_ಠ

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

NRI?

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

EETAAALY ,as they say it.

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u/reddit_kk Aug 10 '13

Congress + SS could not leverage on the IT boom of 90s. Hence there are only few sw firms in Mum. SEEPZ area which was heart of sw industry in Mumbai remains unchanged and pathetic for last 25 years whereas hyd built complete new cities around IT

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u/Soul2018 Aug 10 '13

IT industry just cannot be in a city like Mumbai.

IT needs lots of cheap land at the beginning to set up. Mumbai neither has lots of land and nor is it cheap. On the other hand Pune is a very popular destination for IT companies. It's debatable but I would say that after Bangalore, Pune has the highest number of IT jobs in India.

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

Jai Maharashtra

anyone on this thread?

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u/drunkTurtle12 Aug 10 '13

Jai Maharashtra! I am from Maharashtra. Any questions?

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

Have lived in and visited almost all of the major cities in Maharashtra.

Is demand of Vidarbha state legitimate?

Who votes for Congress/NCP BTW, because poor especially farmers in Maharashtra are suffering for long

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u/Varkari Aug 10 '13

I don't think the demand doesn't stand on its leg beacause Vidarbha ruling class is in utter shambles. We've idiots like Prakash Ambedkar, Pandurang Fundkar, Prafulla Patel, DB Atram etc. who are more interested in short term benefits for themselves instead of a greater vision for people. The Varhadi janata is damn too busy making ends meet and don't give a shit if Vidarbha is seperated.

35-40% of Maharashtra's population is Maratha (Kshatriya, Teli, Leva, Kunabi etc) and they overwhelmingly vote for NCP. Other major group is OBC (Mali, Sonar etc) and vote for Congress/NCP/BJP based on which caste the candidate is. E.g. Chhagan Bhujbal is NCP and mali, so OBC janata votes for NCP.

The Dalits are fragmented (no pun intended) and vote for R.S.Gavai, Ambedkar, Athavale etc.

BJP gets rest of the share.

So considering the majority, NCP/Congress rules the roost.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

The sugarcane farmers vote for the NCP, as do a significant chunk of the Maratha caste. Since the Sena and MNS split each other's votes, that tends to be enough.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Without western Mah, Vidarbha would be an impoverished state eligible for central assistance. As things stand, Vidarbha tends to get ignored for infrastructure.

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u/unhappyhippie Aug 10 '13

does it come before Jai Hind as I've heard?

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u/parlor_tricks Aug 10 '13

God no. I dislike (loathe) the mns and SS fronts but they are your stereotypical chauvinistic patriots. Its country and state for them. They'd fight for India, just that they fight for their idea of their stat too.

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u/drunkTurtle12 Aug 10 '13

Um, not really. Depends on the person though. If we speak about Balasaheb Thackeray, he always used to say Jai Hind, Jai Maharashtra. There might be some people who might put Maharashtra before, but the same can be said of some people from other states.

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u/gcs8 Aug 10 '13

No.

Here, set in stone :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

I've always heard Jai Hind before Jai Maharashtra. Never the other way around.

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

Even if one says Jai Maharashtra ,it doesn't mean 'fuck india!'. Maharashtra is India. Jai MH is by default Jai Hind . Its not much an issue.

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u/ArKits Aug 10 '13

Jai Maharashtra Bhau!

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u/runningeek Aug 10 '13

Vari

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u/Varkari Aug 10 '13

Varkari reporting for duty :-)

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u/WhatsTheBigDeal Aug 11 '13

Nice to know I make almost as much as Maharashtra. PS: Take a look at the GDP numbers...

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u/Varkari Aug 10 '13

Are Maharashtrian Brahmins in this forum aware of the rampant anti-brahminism prevalent in Maharashtra? I am not talking about Mumbai/Pune (which does not represent whole Maharashatra anyways). The rest of the state (Pashcim MH, Marathwada, Vidarbha, Zadipatti) etc are full of crazy Maratha Seva sangh, Sambhaji brigade, dalit fringe groups etc who spew venom and twist facts to suit their propaganda. The sad part is that normal non-brahmins have started believing in these propaganda materials.

Any comments?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '13

Well, to be honest, my Brahmin ancestors were complicit in a number of atrocious actions.

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u/MrJekyll Aug 10 '13

Shivaji, Shivaji, Shivaji, Shivaji ..

argh !

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

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u/gcs8 Aug 10 '13

Only when they try to elbow us out.

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u/parlor_tricks Aug 10 '13

After a while you realize they are a faceless blob and you can beat the shit out of it. Then it becomes ok.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '13

Something wrong with some of the links? (Valley of flower link) I just get redirected here.

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u/sree_1983 Aug 11 '13

Please click on the link, u will be taken to comment by u/reddit_kk, there he has mentioned his site. Please take a look at it.

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u/nutc Aug 12 '13

Your GDP numbers are way off, OP!

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u/sree_1983 Aug 12 '13

Please let me know the right GDP.

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u/kulmari Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

I lived in Pune's Bhosri town for 8 years, in a society which was predominately Marathis (all castes). I have noticed that different castes within Marathis does not look each other with the same eyes. There are high caste who won't even allow people from low caste in their homes. There were Kulkarni's, Joshi's and couple of more castes who were overly proud of their last names. Things weren't really good within our society because it had majority SS votes.

Things turned to worse when Raj Thackeray made his first public speech about slapping Biharis. I am from UP. It escalated quickly in our society. 2 of us in a housing society of 150 odd houses were looked down upon every now and then. People who use to talk to us in Hindi or English quickly switched to talk to us only in Marathi. We had to pay 500 each to 10 different Ganpati Pandaals in the locality. Kids in our society often shouted at us 'biharis tujhe aayi chi', 'bhaiya's fuck off'. All of this when my mom and sister use to visit me often. Any theft in a kilometer of radius and our society chairman has to come and talk to us in a manner that we are responsible for it.

We couldn't move out of the society because my dad owned the flat we were putting up in. After ignoring them for 6 months we finally had to report the matter to police because someone threatened us to leave or we will be murdered. We had to pay 20K to the policy and they put up a constable for two days in the society.

In one of the society meetings I was told by the board members that we should sell our place and move somewhere else. I asked why to which they had no reasons.

We finally had to sell the flat in the rate lower than what we bought for 8 years ago.

I now live in Noida. I hate MH and Marathis to the core. I wouldn't offer my dick to thackerays to suck. I swear to god, I will beat up any marathi I will find anywhere in India.

Edit: Typo.

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u/socialcrap Aug 10 '13

Do the people from Bhosri call each other "bhosri-ke"? And if they do, what is the general reaction?

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u/agentbigman Aug 10 '13

Sorry about what happened to you bro. Just curiously asking you, would you have had a different experience if it would have been Bombay instead of Pune?

I am a gujju. Born and brought up in MH. I have had a few experiences like yours but i can say for certain that I find Bombay kind towards everyone.

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u/qtya Aug 10 '13

I wouldn't offer my dick to thackerays to suck.

But what if the girl is really really hot.

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

I thought this thread was about discussion of Maharashtra's culture-food-places.

but turns out top comment is about beating up Marathis !

Straight out goon-mentality is reflected in these comments !

@ u/kulmari : You were discriminated and you want to beat up Marathis. Just like that many Marathis were discriminated by Northies and then they joined MNS to beat up other Northies. You want to know why so much Anti-North hatered in MH ? Just look at yourself ,you will find the answers. And don't find elated by number of 'upvotes'. Shiv Sena rules BMC on basis of same 'upvotes'. Its not about number of upvotes,its about rational thinking. Do have it.

FUCK THIS THREAD AND FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT IT !

Over & out from my end !

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

This needs further discussion and upvotes. I believe this guy is telling the truth. Despite so many good experiences in Maharashtra, I think Marathi manoos do have a problem, I believe they live with an over hyped superiority complex somehow originating from hatred for others.

I would also like to mention that - Maharashtra has been home land of Hindu Mahasabha & RSS. Theie ideology has mutated badly into that of SS & MNS.

Even I saw Marathi manoos making a poor Bihari guy stand up in front of them in local and by turns making fun of him and verbally abusing him for almost half an hour. After that I intervened by saying -" jaane do, gareeb aadmi hai"

Mumbai was earlier a Portuguese establishment, later handed over to British. British people laid the foundations of modern Mumbai/Bombay.

So many Gujjus, Shettys and others from different part of India made it worth our financial capital

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

I lived in Baramati for 2 yrs, & faced worst discrimination from fellow North Indians . So what do you expect me to do : start beating each and every North Indian that I meet ??

Thankfully I had to leave that company. My work of 10months stretched for 24 months ,because the main guy in authority hated Marathis. I wasted 2 yrs of my life in that shithole of a company.

But then again ,I din't let hate take over my thinking process. Today I have freinds from all regions/relgions who have helped me reach where I am. If I had thought like you , I won't have made friends with North Indians, but that's just plain retarded to stereotype any particular community from acts of few .

I now live in Noida. I hate MH and Marathis to the core. I wouldn't offer my dick to thackerays to suck. I swear to god, I will beat up any marathi I will find anywhere in India.

I now live in MH. I hate Northies to the core. I wouldn't offer my dick to Anti-Marathi to suck. I swear to god, I will beat up any Northies I will find anywhere in India. - Sounds retarded no ?? Atleast to me it does :D

TDLR : Bad apples are everywhere. Don't stereotype. Grow Up

EDIT : (Self-proclaimed) Secular-Open minded people down-voting other side of the story :P

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u/axyjo Aug 10 '13

I don't live in India, but I'm Marathi. One of my best friends' dad (born and raised in Delhi) called me Ghati when we first met. Didn't hate DL. Then he apologized, once he realized how offensive it was. Still don't hate DL. It goes both ways, but it doesn't mean you need to get aggressive.

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u/gcs8 Aug 18 '13 edited Aug 18 '13

I have noticed that different castes within Marathis does not look each other with the same eyes. There are high caste who won't even allow people from low caste in their homes.

Is this an exclusively Maharashtrian phenomenon? If not, is it much less wherever you originally hail from? Has it always been like that?

Kids in our society often shouted at us 'biharis tujhe aayi chi', 'bhaiya's fuck off'. All of this when my mom and sister use to visit me often.

That sure must have been beyond embarrassing and enraging. If I'm allowed, I extend the most profound apologies on behalf of 'my people'.

Any theft in a kilometer of radius and our society chairman has to come and talk to us in a manner that we are responsible for it.

Again, reprehensible. The situation has come to such a pass because evidently, most of the Northerners who come to Maharashtra's cities are uneducated desperadoes who even resort to crime to earn their living. Go through a Mumbai newspaper and you'll notice there's a large number of people who commit petty crimes and run off to their native places somewhere in the Hindi heartland to evade arrest. This is not to say that crimes are committed by only certain people, but the problem is that about the only Northerners people here have seen in real life are such cases. You don't see this happening in the almost equally cosmopolitan Bengaluru.

But still, that in no way affects the kind of tremendous respect that individuals like say, Atal Behari Vajpayee command here!

After ignoring them for 6 months we finally had to report the matter to police because someone threatened us to leave or we will be murdered. We had to pay 20K to the policy and they put up a constable for two days in the society.

Are you holding the Pune police to different standards than that of say, Noida?

I now live in Noida. I hate MH and Marathis to the core.

So how are you different than the very people you're complaining about? Going by context, you seem to be more educated and well-travelled than them, yet you harbour such extreme emotions?

I swear to god, I will beat up any marathi I will find anywhere in India.

God wants you to beat up Marathis, is it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

I've always felt Bombay should be separated from the rest of the state and be made into a union territory or something. Even before pre-independence era, it was home to Gujjus and Mahrashtrians in almost equal amounts along with other smaller communities. It is unfair for Mahrashtrians to claim Bombay as their own.

I'd like to hear the opinion of a Mahrashtrian on this controversial topic.

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u/1581947 Aug 14 '13

I hope no one actually tries to do this. A lot of time efforts and blood will be wasted while we have many other important issues which should be the focus.

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u/wanderingmind Aug 10 '13

In general Maharashtrians will oppose it strongly. They would refer to the 100-odd people who died for it, and that sacrifice would not be in vain.

I personally think they sacrificed their lives asking for someone that really did not belong to them culturally or economically, and are still fighting to make it belong to them. Mumbai's culture is totally different from that of Maharashtra, and that's not gonna change. If they want it to change, they can move the business out of the city and create another city where cosmopolitanism rules and Mumbai can nuture and cultivate Marathi culture, but that is impractical.

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u/gcs8 Aug 10 '13

Even before pre-independence era, it was home to Gujjus and Mahrashtrians in almost equal amounts along with other smaller communities.

Source? I have quoted a 1951 census report in a thread earlier that clearly showed Marathis constitute more than half the population, and later have always been the largest linguistic group in the city.

It is unfair for Mahrashtrians to claim Bombay as their own.

It is absurd for anyone to 'claim' an entire city as their own. All they say is, whether Marathi or non-Marathi, Mumbaikars should not have to bear the brunt of massiv emigration into the city, especially since infra is woefully inadequate.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

It's a fool's errand. If you think the trouble in Andhra over Telangana is unfortunate, well, separating Mumbai from Maharashtra will be a hundred times more emotional and, given the presence of the Thackerays, more violent.

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u/locx Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

Minus Bombay and Pune i don't think any place is worth wasting time in Maharashtra.

EDIT : Damn you lazy bums. I had tried so hard to provoke marathi manoos feeling to provide this topic a comprehensive list of places to visit. I would have to do a mini-list it seems.

Following are great places to visit in Maharashtra ard bombay -

  • Bombay - the maximum city.

  • Ajanta & Ellora caves - Cave paintings.

  • Nasik - Awesome winyard.

  • Lavasa - Highly controversial but amazing experience.

  • Kolad - Amazing rafting experience.

  • Lonavala & Khandala - Weekend getaway in hills just an hour from Bombay.

  • Igatpuri - Beautiful hill Station.

  • Murud Janjira - Awesome beach fort.

  • Kashid - Beach getaway. Do try the ferry from Gateway of India to Alibagh en route.

  • Mahabaleshwar - Awesome hill station. Ideal for couples.

  • Matheran - Awesome trek experience.

  • Panchgani - Hill station.

  • Shirdi - Enjoy the crazy

  • Shingnapur - Shani temple.

  • Trimbakeshwar jyotirlinga

  • Ratnagiri - The mango capital with an amazing beach.

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u/reddit_kk Aug 10 '13

Threads like these are to open eyes of people like you

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13

Konkon and South Maharashtra ,some parts of North MH.

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u/DrKraze Aug 10 '13

Have you guys heard of Vithal Varerkar? I know there is one great play of his that united people during independence. Anyone familiar with him can name his famous works?

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u/anti_paradox Aug 11 '13

  1. Can anyone tell me why Ganpati aartis sound like a lot Sanskrit than Marathi? I know most languages and prayers originated in Sanskrit, still someone please offer an overview of how the Marathi language evolved. For e.g. how English has Old English, Middle English and now Modern. Does Marathi have similar classification as well?

P.s Ganesh chaturthi in a month and I won't be there T_T

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u/MarkMcGuinness Dec 05 '13

AFAIK,

Proto Indo European -> Proto Indo Iranian -> Vedic Sanskrit (2000 BC) -> Classical Sanskrit (500 BC) -> Maharashtri Prakrit (300 BC) -> Old Marathi (700 AD)-> Middle Marathi (1200 AD) -> Marathi (1700 AD) -> Standard Marathi

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

I do not like Misal Pav. No. Sorry.

Puranpoli was ...I dont know.

Is Ja replaced with Za, example Jenifer will be Zenifer?

Good Lavni videos please.

Why Uttar Kannada is part of Kannada when they are more Marathi than Kannadiga?

Do Thakrey family hold any value outside of Bombay Mumbai?

Who so ever answers this question, why does your surname end with *.kar? Like Tendulkar or Patkar or Acharkar etc etc...

If I trust my mom's version, some Marathi families, mostly Brahmins, were displaced from MH during Shivaji's time period and some of them settled in HP. Like Agnihotris are mostly Marathis but can be found in HP as well. Is that true?

EDIT: Jai Maharashtra. And if any Marathi ever said Balley Balley to a Punjabi, "Agha bai" for you.

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u/chengiz Aug 10 '13

Is Ja replaced with Za, example Jenifer will be Zenifer?

No. Marathi has a soft j sound, most accurately denoted in English as dz. There is the regular j sound as well. Both are written by the devanagari ज. When j occurs in an English word, some marathi speakers overcompensate and say the soft j. This usually happens only in the middle of a word, so Jennifer will be said correctly.

Marathis in uttar Karnataka

Still a sore issue in certain circles. State line should have been drawn further south according to many. Here's an article with more info.

-kar ending

This is a suffix that means "from" or something like that, basically a qualifier. Sorta like how Russians are -ov. Doesnt mean anything anymore.

Marathi families displaced

Not during Shivaji's time but probably later. And probably not displaced forcibly or anything but emigrated. Maratha empire was quite big. Eg. the Scindias are originally Shinde. They anglicized their name because Shinde was vulgar. Same as how Bal Thackeray's dad anglicized their name from Thakre.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

The part of the surname before kar is the name of your ancestral town / village / city. So your surname is also a geo-tag, in a way.

Also, the Brahmin families weren't displaced, but migrated to help with the administration of the Maratha empire. Many stayed on in HP, UK etc.

Aga bai is a cringeworthy phrase that is said only by women to other women (and even then, not often).

Ja and za doesn't apply to proper nouns.

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u/ranjan_zehereela Aug 10 '13

yes,

Why Xerox is written झेरोक्स

Why Music is written म्यूझिक

some Marathi families, mostly Brahmins, were displaced from MH during Shivaji's time period and some of them settled in HP

Yes they are in Uttarakhand as well, I suppose the 'Joshis' for ex

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

what does balle balle mean?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '13

Why Uttar Kannada is part of Kannada when they are more Marathi than Kannadiga?

According to wikipedia, there are more kannada and konkani speakers than marati speakers in Uttar Kannada. Altough, people do understand the language. Since, the place is more to the karwar side, there's a more konkani culture than marata culture there.

Besides, why are we talking about UK in a thread about Maharastra?

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u/MeManoos Aug 10 '13 edited Aug 10 '13

Why Uttar Kannada is part of Kannada when they are more Marathi than Kannadiga?

Marathis in Belgaon area themselves don't want to be part of Maharashtra state.Fact.

Do Thakrey family hold any value outside of Bombay Mumbai?

Thakerays were specifically put in Island city by Yashwantrao Chavan (Sharad Pawars mentor) to keep Marathi flag flying high. Bal Thackeray is god like figure and is respected across party lines. Buts thats about it,it doesnt necessarily mean people will vote him .

If I trust my mom's version, some Marathi families, mostly Brahmins, were displaced from MH during Shivaji's time period and some of them settled in HP. Like Agnihotris are mostly Marathis but can be found in HP as well. Is that true?

History is one wacky subject. Shivaji had displaced one Maratha Clan of More's in konkon after they consistently sided with Mughals. Thats the reason one will find More's in almost every part in MH. But thats just one of the many theories. Truth we will never know.

Who so ever answers this question, why does your surname end with *.kar? Like Tendulkar or Patkar or Acharkar etc etc...

No idea boss. 'kar' means 'do' ,maybe it is referred to someone doing some specific job since generations ,just wild guess.

and also ..Balle Balle :D

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