r/BurnNotice • u/[deleted] • Dec 07 '12

Discussion S06E15 - "Best Laid Plans" - Episode Discussion (Spoilers)

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u/kylec82 Dec 07 '12

I enjoyed the episode too, I'm really starting to fucking hate that CIA bitch.

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u/CSquare43-Work Dec 12 '12

I really don't like her in this either. She was OK on the wire (not great, but alright), but I really don't like her in this role.

Glad i'm not the only one.....

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u/indoorKites Dec 11 '12

I said this last episode's discussion but it's really obvious why she's doing what she's doing. Michael Weston is a spy, his job is fundamentally to social engineer to get himself out of sticky situations. Knowing this she can't trust him as if he's lying he would say something similar to this in order to get out of it.

All she has to go on is that a former burned spy killed a CIA higher up with a spotless? record. Further it looks obvious from the scene that Carr shot him in self defense and that Michael killed him in cold blood.

All that makes Michael seem like he's the bad guy.

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u/agentpanda Dec 18 '12

/signed.

We saw what kind of work it took to exonerate him the last time it looked like Michael murdered his CIA boss- that was almost a full-season arc of finding evidence and then a few more episodes of convincing Pearce that it was legit and Michael was a "good guy".

Pearce was introduced as the 'CIA Bloodhound', and we're supposed to believe the new lady is this epic counter-intel trainer who apparently wrote the books on the subject. She's not going to stop for anything, and I love her for that. She's a bitch, just like Madeline said, but it makes her awesome at her job, obviously. I look forward to what it'll be like if/when Mike and her get to work together in the future, but otherwise it's just cool to watch them spar.

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u/Sariel007 Dec 08 '12

Sam: Half the force knows this chin.

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u/Sariel007 Dec 08 '12

particularly the moment where Mama Weston called the CIA out about spying on an American citizen on US soil.

And the fact they just barge into her house without permission when she is there and break into it when she is not there.

Next week looks intense!

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u/MagnifloriousPhule Dec 08 '12

I was really hoping that

  1. she had signed that contract with a fake name.

  2. she would have brought them to court over the entire mess and then had a scene of the judge taking the CIA to task.

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u/Sariel007 Dec 08 '12

she had signed that contract with a fake name.

Well since they know her name I don't think they would have fallen for that, however, I would think she could take them to court and basically say she signed under duress.

Also I am not sure how they got away with holding her and questioning her without a laywer.

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u/cfksite Dec 08 '12

Well, like she said. It is the CIA. Legally, they can't. But it's the CIA

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u/MagnifloriousPhule Dec 08 '12

Yeah, 1. was more wishful thinking.

However the fact that it was under duress, as you pointed out, could be easily proven in court by a 1st year law student, so she shouldn't need to run (Although I'm glad she's going with Michael.)

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u/Dookiestain_LaFlair Dec 10 '12

Patton Oswalt saying "we're just going to bust through the wall like the Kool-Aid guy!?" was the best line of the episode.

Whoever plays Sam's girlfriend is a smokin hot MILF. I'm sure she's actually famous and I just don't know her name because I'm the one in the wrong here.

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u/cfksite Dec 10 '12

Anyone else mention the fact that Barry is now in CIA custody??

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u/midnightwalrus Dec 14 '12

Yeah that can't be good. There's no way he got rid of his ledger in time. Dude's pretty boned.

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u/cfksite Dec 08 '12

Yay! Maddie is not bring left behind! I do wonder how Michael could ever exspect to fix this though. No one at the CIA is gonna listen to him.

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u/AverageJoe74 Dec 08 '12

Well, I don't know why the CIA hasn't investigated the mess in the hotel properly. They know that Michael killed Tom. But they should also know that spoiler Which brings up the question: Why don't they have a look into Tom's life and work.

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u/Sariel007 Dec 08 '12

Tom set that up to look like self defense. When they found Tom he was shot to death and his pistol was holstered Micheal and Sam where seen fleeing the building. Lots of circumstantial evidence working against Michael and crew. Plus even if it was for the greater good Michael did kill Dr. Cox, I mean Card in cold blood.

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u/cfksite Dec 08 '12

This is the biggest issue I have with Michael saying he is gone "fix things" is there is really no way to fix things. He killed him. Regardless of any reason he did it, he killed him. No one is gonna let him off on that

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u/AverageJoe74 Dec 09 '12

What we have are two dead persons in a room. One (Card) was shot by Michael, the other was shot by Card. Card might have set the murder up as self-defense, but this plan didn't work out as soon as Michael entered the room.

There is no way one could explain the first murder as 'self-defense'. There is no sign of a fight and the first person didn't had a gun in his hands.

And while Riley is not interested in the larger picture, someone higher up the food chain will be.

I don't mean to say that Michael would be able to 'proof' his innocence (he isn't) but that there are some loose ends from the Card-arc that could be used to end the current arc.

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u/MagnifloriousPhule Dec 08 '12

My guess is that he brings in someone they want more.

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u/RoyMBar Dec 08 '12

I think they'll listen to him, once he brings to light what Dr. Cox was doing around the globe.

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u/himymilf Dec 08 '12

He's been working with the terrorist, Jan Itor.

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u/cfksite Dec 08 '12

With what proof? Everyone who knew about it is dead! Anything Michael says, no one is gonna believe. I do agree that it might work like the detective in season 3. Kinda a "il leave you alone, but I'm watching you" type of thing.

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u/V2Blast Dec 10 '12

I was waiting for someone to mention that the CIA shouldn't be operating on US soil... I'm glad Madeline did.

This was a good episode... We got to take a break from the show going too much darker.

I guess Madeline going with the gang is really the only way for it to work right now... But I wonder if Barry's capture will change things. Though I guess we didn't even see him get caught... But they know he's involved, anyway.

My favorite quote of the episode was Fi: "Sam, you brilliant son of a bitch. (Michael and Jesse stare at her) ...I'll never admit that I said that."

The preview looked... worrying. I have to wonder what will happen that will make preview

Anyway, I quite enjoyed the episode.

(The r/episodehub discussion thread is here.)